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520 Conversion
« on: August 29, 2012, 06:59:44 pm »
Are there any benefits to do it on my 06 Katana and exactly what does it do? Kind of a newb question I know.......... :34
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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 07:22:35 pm »
It will lighten your overall rotaltional mass right off the crank. This giving you better acceleration due to less weight the motor has to throw around. On some bikes it will also help with side to side transfer as it reduces oveall weight.

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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 07:53:55 pm »
^ a+ answer..

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 10:21:03 pm »
any suggestions on manufacturer for the kit?
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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 10:33:13 pm »
Buy the kit with the very best chain you can afford. 520 chains will stretch more. And I only like to run steel or coated rear sprockets. 520 rears tend to be easily worn down when just made of standard Alloy.

And it dropped either 6 or 8lbs off my bike when I converted. Can't exactly remember. But it does make a real world difference.

Yea, it was 8lbs, going from a 530 ZZZ to a 520.  I went from 482 lbs wet down to 474 lbs wet weight.

And it will give you more clearance on your rear tire. Which prob isn't an issue for you, but it is for me.
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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 10:49:52 pm »
Don't buy a Kit... I can get you a 520 Kit with steel sprockets and a ek 520 x ring chain for 175- 200 out the door in one day.. No shipping.. Most kits are coming with aluminum sprockets and like he said they don't last.. Melt like butter to be exact.. Lol

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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 07:28:49 am »
Don't buy a Kit... I can get you a 520 Kit with steel sprockets and a ek 520 x ring chain for 175- 200 out the door in one day.. No shipping.. Most kits are coming with aluminum sprockets and like he said they don't last.. Melt like butter to be exact.. Lol

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 10:30:56 pm »
I guess I should have been more specific. I didn't mean a "KIT" off fleabay. I meant a good kit put together with steel sprockets from a shop.
I just always call it a kit, because it should ALWAYS be replaced altogether at once. like a kit.

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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 04:35:00 am »
Yea aluminum sproc's sux! Don't last lomg at all.

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 07:17:12 am »
Does anybody know where to get d.I.d. chain. Sprockets we Can find.
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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 08:03:38 am »
just go see phil(2wheeltech) at mountain motorsports. easy as that.
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Re: Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 08:34:30 am »
just go see phil(2wheeltech) at mountain motorsports. easy as that.
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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 09:22:14 am »
If you want to get the absolute most out of the conversion, go with an aluminum rear.....however, be sure to use either the hardcoat from Vortex or the titan tough from Sprocket Specialists. As mentioned a standard AL rear sprocket in no time will have teeth lean and snapping off and will be as sharp as a saw blade !! I always did the 520 conversion on my 1000 supersport bikes and it really does make a significant difference. I use the EK mvxz 520 chain.......and would also remove all of the x-rings (friction eats up hp too). This is speaking from race specific bikes, but they did see occasional street use. Oh, and the combo was tested thouroughly in extreme conditions with 185+rwhp.
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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 09:37:08 am »
Yeah, I love peopl that tell you 520 is not strong enough for bikes over 450cc.

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 09:51:31 am »
I have heard that a hundred times. Look at them and. Say well why did Kawasaki Yamaha and Honda use them for 600 n bigger. I don't know. Maybe they were no thinking
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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 10:44:59 am »
I have heard that a hundred times. Look at them and. Say well why did Kawasaki Yamaha and Honda use them for 600 n bigger. I don't know. Maybe they were no thinking
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 11:04:20 am »
Yeah, I love peopl that tell you 520 is not strong enough for bikes over 450cc.

each chain does have a tensile.strength and cc rating.. Not all chains are created equally..

In Darrens case and in dirt bikes aluminum performs exceptional.. But when you want 12k+ out of a chain and sprocket... steel or twin ring is the only option imo...

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 01:58:10 pm »
Guess i'm showing my age but last time i had a chain drive bike there was only steel gears o rings were a new thing and regular chains were like 25 bucks.this thread is like going to school for me.
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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 02:34:58 pm »
As reference.....my PST bike uses hard coated aluminum Vortex sprockets in 530 pitch and I run the EK DRZ2 chain...11,500 lb TS. It has to endure 600+rwhp !!
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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 05:48:27 pm »
That's why I only want steel sprockets and run the x chains from d.I.d thevine on the 636 has gotten over a 1,000 miles on it with me doing clutch ups constantly on it and has yet to get to where it is needing to be tighten. My old one every 700+ you were doing it.

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 10:16:54 pm »
If you properly align your chain and sprocket when installing your rear wheel, set the correct tension, and maintain your chain, a hard coat AL sprocket will last just fine.

and Burnett's comment about removing the x-rings......I used to run non o-ring chains on my race bikes for that very reason (shhhhh that was one of my secrets for free HP).  But those chains got replaced every 4th race weekend.  I used to buy 428 chains in bulk for my FZR400's.  A chain replacement was about $20.  For the 600cc bike, I just bought one when I needed it about 2 times a year.
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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2012, 03:13:55 pm »
8 ball what do u think a properly maintain chain would last with out the rings n it

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Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2012, 04:07:14 pm »
They used to be good for 20K before o-ring chains came out (affordably)....but you had to oil them constantly, and the rear of your bike was a grimy mess!

Honestly, I wouldn't run a non o-ring chain on a street bike.  It's just too much hassle, and it would be hard to find one in a heavy duty version that would be as strong as what most of the good o-ring/x-ring offerings are. 

As I mentioned, non o-ring chains were a trick I used on my dedicated race bikes.  And on the 400's, they were changed several times a year....not that they needed it, but I never wanted to take the chance....especially, when I had a roll of it hanging on the wall.
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Re: Re: 520 Conversion
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2012, 04:59:32 pm »
K. Then I'll stick to my x ring

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