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Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« on: October 21, 2013, 07:03:35 pm »
HF has started selling a mc tire changer again. The rim clamps would require modification or some kind of block because they don't have a lip to keep the rim from jumping up. But, for $40 it would be worth that if you wanted to mount your own tires.

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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 07:18:27 pm »
$40 is just for the motorcycle attachment.  The rest of the machine will be about another $40. 
http://www.harborfreight.com/portable-tire-changer-69686.html

I noticed the clamps on the display unit a couple weeks ago when I went to HF.  Actually, I think they could be made to work better that the old style. I coated my clamps with plastic tool handle dip, but those, I think would work with a piece of leather laid down with spray adhesive.

I have had my changer for almost 15 years and have changed countless tires on it.  The only thing I would advise is to get a good mount/demount bar from NoMar.  It'll cost more than the changer (about $125), but the bar that comes with the HF changer will scratch rims.

I have always said that when my HF unit wears out, I'll get a NoMar one for around $600.....but I'm still waiting for this cheap HF one to wear out! :21
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 07:43:32 pm »
Sorry, I didn't consider the other party because I have it already I guess...lol
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2013, 09:54:54 pm »
chk the nomar site or Marc Parnes  site.  I forget which but they used to offer a bolt on adapter to modify the MC attachment to hold a rim without scratching it.

+1 on the nomar bar also.  I usually take my wheels to MikeE (ridewnc.com) but occasionally will do them myself. 

oops my bad.. Marc parnes for balancing..

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and a cheaper alternative to the no-mar bar.  Mojo lever.. $99
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2013, 09:57:59 pm »
option B is use a few pieces of plastic cutting board stacked and staggered to form a lip bolted to the HF changer arms..  for the really cheapo DIY guy..
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 08:29:51 am »
Wow, didn't mean to kill the thread..
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 09:10:43 am »
I recently bought a Tire Changer at the TOOLS place by Knifeworks on Hwy 66 (Sevierville). Don't know if it is designated MC Tire Changer, but it takes a 17 inch rim with room to spare and came with two rods (different diameter on each end, so 4 sizes to go thru the axle.  

None of them fit mine, so, I have not tried to pry the tire off using the center rods and the removal and install bar they give you. I just use hand tire tools.

The rim holder has rubber over the part that connects to the rim (see picture), so it seems pretty good that way. One of the rim attacments is on a screw thingy (see picture). So, you tighten it up that way once you get the other rim holders adjusted and pimnned . I did use the bars thru the axle hole to get things set up, but was afraid to pry against the bearings in the axle especially with a bar that was not the exact right diameter in the axle hole. 

I mounted the tire changer to ply wood (cut 4 x 8 in half and put them together). Drilled holes for the bolts to hold the tire changer to the ply wood. Countersunk the lower piece of plywod so bolt head does not hit the ground. Works OK and allows one to drag the assembly around and not have to drill holes in floor. I store in corner but get it out in middle of the room to work on the tire chnage.

Not sure it is worth all the work - HA! Curtie changed them reasonable and met a guy that has a nice shop in his garage (was a HONDA MECHANIC before he retired who said he would change tire for $10 wheel Off). I just like to screw around and try to do somethings myself.  :groan

Second picturte is my attempt to hold the bead in the center of the rim to make it easier to get the rest of the bead over the rim. (worked pretty good)
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 09:54:29 am »
I put 1" wood blocks on underside between bead and rim to hold tire centered. Once the second bead is on they fall right out.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 11:05:15 am »
HB has a nice static balancer for 29 also.

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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 03:06:12 pm »
Paul how much was yours?
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 07:06:24 pm »
Paul how much was yours?

I think (would have to look to be sure) about $110, then add ply wood. I think I figured about $130 for all of it with taxes. .
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 07:13:57 pm »
I put 1" wood blocks on underside between bead and rim to hold tire centered. Once the second bead is on they fall right out.

I did use a block (scrap about 1 inch thick) -- not too effective for me as it just held the one edge down in the grrove and would also work it's way out as I worked the tire around the rest of the way. I think would have to make some angled wedge or something (work better, maybe).

The straps hold the bead down there (reckon the block of wood I put in the first area helped some as I left it in).

I just kind of pushed the bead down with my hand and then tighten the straps to hold the tire and bead, tehn go work on the rest of the tire. Front tire was not too bad. But, I had a dickens of a time with the rear tire. Ended up putting strsps in about thre ppaces as Iw orked the tire around. 
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2013, 03:17:52 am »
1 of the main keys to mounting is lube. U can actually just push the first bead on by hand if done right. Too much n it can slip after mounting thus rotating on the rim. #2 is keep both beads in center of rim during mounting of 2 bead.

Maybe we need a DIY tire mounting course sometime. Rear tires should be the easiest.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2013, 07:47:50 pm »
1 of the main keys to mounting is lube. U can actually just push the first bead on by hand if done right. Too much n it can slip after mounting thus rotating on the rim. #2 is keep both beads in center of rim during mounting of 2 bead.

Maybe we need a DIY tire mounting course sometime. Rear tires should be the easiest.

GIOT IT.

#2 is the one.  ::)

Straps help hold both beads in center. Still, I was about to swear this tire is two inches to small in diameter.  :groan Then I got it.  ;D
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2014, 09:41:12 pm »
Did up 2 sets of wheels last nite.  took 1.5 hrs for all 4 wheels, Only 3 needed dismount.  My goto guy down here doubled his tire mounting prices which made it well worth doing my own again..

The biggest thing is to make sure the tire bead stays below the rim seating lip area..


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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2014, 08:37:22 am »
I gotta say I have had my HB changer for several years and have changed more tires on it than the makers ever dreamed about this thing doing I am sure. Haha I never used the bat though. I always just used spoons because the bar will scratch the wheels. But I got to where I can do a set of sportbike tires in about 5 minutes or less. Had it down to an art. haha
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2014, 01:48:27 pm »
I really like the looks of it.May have to get one myself.Changing tires on floor is getting harder.I'm fine with using spoons but the floor thing isn't for stiff old farts like me.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2014, 07:27:31 pm »
Omg. I can't imagine doing one on the floor.

Yeah Curt. I could probbaly do them faster. The first one is usually very easy. I use a damp soapy sink sponge for lube.  By the 4th wheel I'm basically doing them dry.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2014, 08:09:43 pm »
Thats the way we did tires on the farm.Everything from bicycle&lawn mowers to the rear off the tractors.Biggest I ever did was a 18.4-34.Never was any good with a tire hammer to break the beads I use old breaker and hit it with a hammer and use full blow spoons.Usually stand on the tire to hold it in the drop center when mounting.Grandpa spent 20 years working for the local firestone dealer and they didn't have a machine so thats how I was taught.I know theres better ways but it works for me.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2014, 08:48:12 pm »
Neat. I like doing everything that I can on my own.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2014, 09:27:04 pm »
A lot of times w/ soapy water you can put the first bead on by hand. No tools or spoons.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2014, 09:32:22 pm »
 If I don't sell my bike, I will need tires by the end of summer. How about balance? Is that important on a bike?
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2014, 11:33:30 pm »
Ive run unbalanced tires and not noticed any difference, That's what the 2 jack stands are for in my photo.  I have a marc parnes balancer,  Not real sure how close my balance work is but it cant be far off.

lock the 2 collars into the wheel, set the bearing ends on the jack stands and give a little spin.  with a little practice you can guess how far off the weight is by how fast it rotates to the heavy spot on the bottom..

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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2014, 09:58:22 am »
Ive run unbalanced tires and not noticed any difference, That's what the 2 jack stands are for in my photo.  I have a marc parnes balancer,  Not real sure how close my balance work is but it cant be far off.

lock the 2 collars into the wheel, set the bearing ends on the jack stands and give a little spin.  with a little practice you can guess how far off the weight is by how fast it rotates to the heavy spot on the bottom..

links for balancer, mojo mount/dismount bar, and mojo blocks are in a earlier post in this thread..

Thanks. I was just curious. I don't remember ever balancing motorcycle tires back in the 60's when I first started riding.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2014, 10:09:09 am »
I just put a couple ounces of stainless steel BB's in mine.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2014, 10:17:55 am »
I just put a couple ounces of stainless steel BB's in mine.

Inside the tire?
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2014, 12:12:05 pm »
Inside the tire?
Yep..  Its like putting centramatic tire balancers on a 18wheeler
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2014, 04:02:24 pm »
Yep..  Its like putting centramatic tire balancers on a 18wheeler

Centramatic? Now I am totally lost.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2014, 04:42:25 pm »
Centramatic? Now I am totally lost.

It's a balancing ring that attaches to the hub behind the wheel on heavy trucks to balance them. The concept is deceiving simple. If the rotating mass (hub, rotor, wheel, tire,etc.) are already balanced the balance media (in my case BB's) will spread evenly around the outer edge. If not the heavy spot will hit the ground harder causing the media to move away from the heavy spot. And, in doing so effectively balancing the wheel assembly every time it rotates.
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Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2014, 04:45:30 pm »
It's a balancing ring that attaches to the hub behind the wheel on heavy trucks to balance them. The concept is deceiving simple. If the rotating mass (hub, rotor, wheel, tire,etc.) are already balanced the balance media (in my case BB's) will spread evenly around the outer edge. If not the heavy spot will hit the ground harder causing the media to move away from the heavy spot. And, in doing so effectively balancing the wheel assembly every time it rotates.

Excellent. Somebody made some money on that idea. :21
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