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2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« on: June 04, 2014, 03:45:57 pm »


this from the Visor Down British website:

2015 CBR300R on sale in August in U.S.
In America, anyway…
Posted: 4 June 2014
by Visordown News

HONDA has announced that the CBR300R is going on sale in America in August as a 2015 model despite the fact that the bike still isn’t available over here yet.
Originally intended to be available in the UK in March this year, having been revealed as part of Honda’s 2014 model range at last year’s bike shows, the CBR300R has been subject to a delay for undisclosed reasons, with the machine not expected to appear in dealers until the end of the year.
The newly-revealed US marked version gets the usual extra side reflectors to meet that country’s regulations, and a new black-and-yellow paint scheme joins the all-red, all-black and red-white-and-blue options seen already.
Both ABS and non-ABS versions are heading to America, and specs for the bike appear to match those expected over here, with 286cc in the up-sized CBR250R engine thanks to a 76mm x 63mm bore and stroke (the CBR250R was 76mm x 55mm).
With 30.4bhp expected from the new engine, the Honda could have its work cut out to beat the forthcoming Yamaha R3, due in 2015 as a big-bore version of the recently revealed R25 which already manages 36bhp from 250cc thanks to its higher-revving, twin-cylinder layout.
 
In America, prices for the CBR300R start at $4,399, with ABS versions costing $500 more. That’s only $200 more than the CBR250R cost in 2013. It suggests that when the 300 finally does appear over here, we can expect a list price somewhere near that of the older bike, which was was £4,199 for the ABS version when last on sale.


Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/cbr300r-on-sale-in-august/25095.html#ixzz33hkjMx7n
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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2014, 10:40:36 pm »
I surely would like to ride one of the 300s (actually like to try all of them).

I don't think they will be any more likeable than my NINJA 500 (Now at 48000 miles and will not last forever),  but the 300s should do the job for my local one up road rides and errand running to the gym, etc.   :happypep

The 400 Burgman suits me for a more comfortable longer day ride and the 650 Burgmn did as well. Both are doable two up with the wife (she does not ride far anyway). The 650 of course is a bit better there.

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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2014, 11:26:30 pm »
Interesting, still think the ninja looks better imo.

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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2014, 08:38:19 am »
So they are sticking with their single-cyl formula and simply increasing stroke. Hmm. No, I don't see this as competition for the Ninja 300. After all, in all the shootouts the Ninjette already beats both the CBR250 AND the CBR500 so this is just something that will appeal to the people that look only at the displacement and the Honda badge but don't read.  At that, it's only a 286 which is a bit shy of 300 and only around 30cc more than the 250 to begin with. I hope this is meant to replace, not augment, the CBR250...

Now that R3 might be something when it touches pavement in North America, especially if they don't water it down too much!

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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 08:52:11 am »
So they are sticking with their single-cyl formula and simply increasing stroke. Hmm. No, I don't see this as competition for the Ninja 300. After all, in all the shootouts the Ninjette already beats both the CBR250 AND the CBR500 so this is just something that will appeal to the people that look only at the displacement and the Honda badge but don't read.  At that, it's only a 286 which is a bit shy of 300 and only around 30cc more than the 250 to begin with. I hope this is meant to replace, not augment, the CBR250...

Now that R3 might be something when it touches pavement in North America, especially if they don't water it down too much!


Agreed. I expected more from the over-engineers at Honda. This doesn't appear to be any sort of competition to the Ninjette. If I was looking for a single cylinder entry level bike the clear winner for me would be the KTM 390.
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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 09:29:56 am »
Ian, I like the KTM but one question I would have is how is it priced compared to the Ninjette and the CBR?  If it's in normal KTM form it's probably 150% or more.  I haven't priced one yet.

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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 09:55:44 am »
It is spendy. I think at release they were $6,400. They also have this coming:


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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 08:49:30 am »
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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 08:49:47 pm »
Honda 300 at Mtn Motorsports the other day. Sets good.

I would like to see the Naked Bike version of the Honda 300. Suit me better than all the fairings on Ninja 300 or the 300 Honda at Mtn Motorsports.

I would guess as most indicate not as good a rdie as the NINJA (performance, I mean).

I would like to ride both and might consider one when the 2008 NINJA 500 I have now is worn out (48000 + miles now). I bought in Spring of 2011 with 1000 miles.
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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 07:55:35 am »
From the Motorcycle-USA.com web site here's a first ride brief road test of the Honda CBR300.  The tester seemed to like the new Honda and gave it good marks in most areas.  The new version of the engine gets its bigger displacement through a longer stroke but keeping the same bore size as the earlier 250.  This ups the horsepower by 17% according to Honda but really improves the torque as anyone would expect with a longer stroke motor. So, not a threat to the Ninja on the track but I would expect the greater torque to make this an easier bike to ride quickly on a country road and more fun around town.  And, at only $4399 USD I bet they sell a lot of these.  


Read it here: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/115/19059/Motorcycle-Article/2015-Honda-CBR300R-First-Ride.aspx
« Last Edit: August 21, 2014, 07:56:36 am by Chris »
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Re: 2015 Honda CBR300R: Competition for the Ninja?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 05:16:06 pm »
Thanks Chris - interesting link.

Might be a choice when the 2008 NINJA 500 gives up the ghost near 50,000 on it now. 

I am pretty sure the NINJA 500 is better over all (except I would like the ABS), but I could be happy with the smaller less power 300s for my local rides.

I am pretty sure I do not ride to the capability of even the NINJA 500, but I do like what I think is a bit more power than the 300 would have.   
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