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Aragon GP - SPOILERS INSIDE
« on: September 26, 2016, 10:03:02 am »
In a season full of great races this may have been one of the best. Loved seeing Suzuki leading the charge. I don't know that Vinales could have stood up to the onslaught of Marquez, Rossi and Lorenzo had he not made the mistake but it shows that Suzuki is ready to be competitive again. Really hoping they can fill the empty seat Vinales leaves with a competitive rider. I'd hope they are courting Crutchlow.
The duels between Marquez/Rossi and later Rossi/Lorenzo were fantastic. I saw them as grudge matches given the history both Marquez and Lorenzo have with Rossi. In the end I don't think anything could have stopped Marquez.
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Re: Aragon GP - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2016, 12:45:25 pm »
It was a heck of a race.  Marquez had dominated practice by lapping several tenths of a second per lap faster than any of his opponents and starting the race was on the pole.  When the race started he tried to start at the same sort of blistering pace but made a bad pass on defending champ Lorenzo and waved an apology after they nearly touched and a few laps later lost the front end in a turn by pushing too hard only saving it by levering the bike back on its wheels with a hard shove with his elbow as they slid down the track.  Basically, he crashed and found a way to keep going anyway. After the race Marquez said he mentally shook himself and realized he needed to calm down, be patient and set a good pace. His very big moment dropped him back to 5th and changed the character of the race into a chase as Marquez hunted down and passed each rider in turn.  Meanwhile, Maverick Vinales on his Suzuki were leading for almost half the race with Rossi and Lorenzo on the factory Yamahas snapping at his heels.  I was pretty glad to see the Suzuki showing signs of being competitive with the factory Hondas and Yamahas.  Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez eventually got by Vinales setting the stage for the showdown between Rossi, now leading and Marquez, lapping about 3 to 5 tenths of a second per lap faster than the Italian.  Plainly they were both giving it their all but eventually Marquez passed and kept driving to open up a gap.  The race ended with Marquez 1st, Lorenzo 2nd, Rossi 3rd, and Vinales and his Suzuki 4th.

Here’s the race report from the Crash.net website along with some photos from the event I added.

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http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/233914/1/marquez-i-had-to-stop-rossi.html

MotoGP Aragon: Marquez: I had to stop Rossi

Marc Marquez emphasized the importance of stopping MotoGP title rival Valentino Rossi from clawing back more points as the Repsol Honda rider won in dominant style at Aragon.

Marquez backed up his form in practice and qualifying to clinch his first premier class success since his Sachsenring win in Germany in July, ending a sequence of races during which Rossi chipped away at his championship advantage.


Marquez demonstrating his normal very deep lean angle in the turns

However, the 23-year-old is now 52 points clear after extending his lead by nine points as Rossi was forced to settle for third in Spain behind his Movistar Yamaha team-mate Jorge Lorenzo.

With four races to go, Marquez is firmly in the title driving seat and he hailed his triumph at Aragon – his first at the circuit since 2013 – as an important step towards his third MotoGP crown.

“It was important, this victory. It was important because since Germany, but especially Austria, if it was a dry race we cannot win again. The second point is that it was important because the second rider, in this case Valentino, was catching me step by step and it was important to stop [him]. If not, his mentality is going up, up, up and we start to have some doubts, but after this victory I feel again good with the bike,” said Marquez.

“I was waiting [for] this race because on the calendar it was a race to win and attack and everything went to plan. It's a nice advantage but like we see today, we must be very concentrated because to crash is really easy.

“Now we go to the Asian tour and this is one of the most difficult points of the season because it's three races in a row, but we need to keep the same mentality, the same concentration, because we know that at some circuits we will struggle more, some less, but we need to be like now: keep calm and try to finish all the races.”


Rossi in the lead but Marquez has him in his sights

Marquez had to fight his way through from fifth place after a huge moment saw him drop four positions when he lost the front at Turn 7 as he led on lap three.

“After warm-up it looked like everything was under control but braking and this year especially, every time you go out on track the feeling can change. I got out and worked hard to try to have the same feeling like in the practice and I tried to push, to lead the race to open a gap, but I had a big moment on Turn 7,” he said.

“I was already on the floor but I don't know why I saved the crash and after that I say, 'okay, quiet'. Step by step I gained positions, I gained time against Valentino and when I caught him, I just relaxed on one lap and then when I overtook, I attacked and I was able to open a gap – enough to win the race.”

His cushion at the top of the standings is a significant lead with only four races to go, but Marquez has shrugged off suggestions he could wrap up the title at Honda's home circuit at Motegi in Japan, which kicks off a run of three flyway races in October.


“In Japan I will not win the championship. I would like because it is Honda's home circuit, but I don't think so. We must wait, we need to be patient and we cannot make any mistakes. It's not important where, it's important to win. We must keep the same mentality and we know that Japan will be one circuit that maybe we will struggle more but we will arrive in other tracks that will be better for us.

“We will see but of course Phillip Island, Valencia are good circuits for me but also Motegi last year, I was strong in dry conditions – in wet it is different,” Marquez added.

“Malaysia, we will see how we can manage but we need to keep the same mentality: if we arrive on Sunday in a circuit where I cannot win, it's not a problem, we must wait.”

Marquez made a hard move on Lorenzo on the opening lap at Turn 15 and was seen to make an apologetic hand gesture on the straight, which he confirmed afterwards in the post-race press conference.

“It was the first lap and it was the first overtake in Turn 15, that was a strong point for me. I didn't calculate well and it was a little bit too tight… but fortunately nothing happened.”

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 01:21:06 pm »
There is no doubt we're seeing a much more mature Marquez this season and this says that as much as his actions on the track have.

“In Japan I will not win the championship. I would like because it is Honda's home circuit, but I don't think so. We must wait, we need to be patient and we cannot make any mistakes. It's not important where, it's important to win. We must keep the same mentality and we know that Japan will be one circuit that maybe we will struggle more but we will arrive in other tracks that will be better for us.

“We will see but of course Phillip Island, Valencia are good circuits for me but also Motegi last year, I was strong in dry conditions – in wet it is different,” Marquez added.

“Malaysia, we will see how we can manage but we need to keep the same mentality: if we arrive on Sunday in a circuit where I cannot win, it's not a problem, we must wait.”
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 06:08:34 pm »
There is no doubt we're seeing a much more mature Marquez this season and this says that as much as his actions on the track have.

“In Japan I will not win the championship. I would like because it is Honda's home circuit, but I don't think so. We must wait, we need to be patient and we cannot make any mistakes. It's not important where, it's important to win. We must keep the same mentality and we know that Japan will be one circuit that maybe we will struggle more but we will arrive in other tracks that will be better for us.

“We will see but of course Phillip Island, Valencia are good circuits for me but also Motegi last year, I was strong in dry conditions – in wet it is different,” Marquez added.

“Malaysia, we will see how we can manage but we need to keep the same mentality: if we arrive on Sunday in a circuit where I cannot win, it's not a problem, we must wait.”

I remember during the 80s and the intense rivalry between Schwantz and Rainey we used to talk about how if we could just combine the insane instinctive talent of Schwantz with the discipline and planning of Rainey we'd have the perfect racer and used to hold up Eddie Lawson as an example of that.  I think that we've seen Marc Marquez, who won his first two championships on sheer riding talent, mature and ride with discipline keeping his eye on the real prize, the championship rather than just ride for the win every race.  That's a transition that would have won Kevin Schwantz at least two other 500 cc championships to go along with the one he won.

I think last year's conflict with Rossi grew Marc up and gave him a real mission.  I think Marc decided he was going to show Rossi just who was the better rider by taking the championship this year.  Depending on how long a Spaniard holds a grudge, he may have decided to make sure he never lets Rossi win another championship.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2016, 08:21:38 pm »
These guys are AMAZING.

Crazy yes, but amazing also.  8)
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